Cirse 8mm Projector

The 'CIRSE-SOUND' Standard 8mm. magnetic sound projector of 1957. It has an excellent German Made 'Schacht' Travenon 1:1.3 20mm lens. Has a valve amplifier built into the pedestal base with magnetic recording and replay facility. The CIRSE has two speed settings 18 and 24 frames per second, microphone input, 'magic eye' valve display for recording level, volume, bass and treble controls. Was supplied with take-up reel, extension speaker and long speaker lead.

A robust and heavy duty cast alloy construction gives a steady picture. The fan cooled lamp is 8v 50 w (A1/17) . A heat absorbing baffle drops down when the film is stationary in the gate, saving film frames from heat damage. The projector mechanism has a metallic grey finish. The motor, intermittent mechanism and lamphouse are mounted on an adjustable pivot above the pedestal. The fixed spool arms accommodate reels of up to 400' ft. capacity. Magnetic Sound Record and Replay facility on mag. striped prints. The "basement" mounted soundhead has record/replay and erase heads and pinchwheel independently driven by a separate motor and spindle with 18 and 24 fps settings achieved by a slide control that adjusts the motor spindle to speed.

Showing valve amplifier with record replay. Accomodates multiple voltage settings including 50 ~ cycles 240 volts AC operation. Projector height 20" inches (51 cm) , width at base 11" inches (28 cm) depth 8" inches (20.5 cm).

Hello Ian,

My name is Alex and I have seen your website and I wished to know if
you could help me ...!

I have a "CIRSE 8mm SOUND PROJECTOR - 24 FPS (1957)" and I have repaired and restored it but now I have a little problem:

after a thorough internal revision, I found a thread that has isconnected
(yellow wire) I do not understand where it can go (ground wire ..?). I'm trying to find the original electric diagram.....

Thank you very much for your attention and for all the help that you can give me!

Alex

Here is a photograph of the Cirse amplifier:

REPLY: You must not work on an amplifier when connected to the mains! The old capacitors may explode if suddenly connected up after 50 years!

Hello Alex,

I am pleased that you found my description of the Cirse 8mm projector
helpful.

I no longer have the Cirse. It was 20 years ago and I cannot remember the wiring as the amplifier was working so I did not work on it.

The wire will have broken off at a solder joint and there may be a mark and frayed wire as evidence where the yellow wire was joined. A close look with a magnifying glass under a strong light may show where it broke away from. Often, the wire will have taken up a shape that points to the region where it was attached.

From your photographs it is not possible to tell where the yellow wire goes on the circuit.

If the yellow wire comes from a transformer? then you can check the
resistance readings of the tappings with an Ohmeter which will identify its purpose. There is usually a diagram printed on the transformer cover showing the tappings.

I know a technician who has a Cirse and I will post him your photographs of the amplifier. He may be able to help.

Ian

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CIRSE" - 8mm. SOUND PROJECTOR - 24 FPS (1957)

Italian manufactured with magnetic sound replay and record valve amplifier. Was supplied with a large extension speaker in carrying box. Made by "Cine Ottica Films - Torino - Italy - Via Cavour 47"